there's a lot of concerns about fracking technology in the company. does that worry you as the ceo of a company that that is your main business right now? >> i think it's a very active market, and keystone specifically is very important i think not just for the u.s., but our relationships with canada, it's very important to the canadian market. we think it's an important project, a project the president should approve. but, obviously, there's environmental risks and concerns, and i think they need to be taken seriously and addressed. cheryl: the president's also calling for more domestic, more must money to be put into ports, railways, things like that. how much work is out there for you if you're a player in this space right now? >> well, it's a huge opportunity and one that if you think about states and municipalities, they've really struggled through the down turn, they don't have a lot of money to invest in local infrastructure projects. i think we need to double down on that, that's where the growth comes from. that's where we get great middle cl